Legislature(2009 - 2010)SENATE FINANCE 532

01/27/2010 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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09:05:36 AM Fy2011 Budget Overview & Fiscal Summary
10:16:38 AM Adjourn
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Office of Management & Budget, Director
Karen Rehfeld
Legislative Finance Division, Director
David Teal
                  SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                      
                      January 27, 2010                                                                                          
                         9:05 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:05:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman called the Senate  Finance Committee meeting                                                                   
to order at 9:05 a.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyman Hoffman, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Charlie Huggins, Vice-Chair                                                                                             
Senator Johnny Ellis                                                                                                            
Senator Dennis Egan                                                                                                             
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
Senator Joe Thomas                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Karen  Rehfeld, Director,  Office of  Management and  Budget,                                                                   
Office  of  the Governor;  John  Boucher,  Senior  Economist,                                                                   
Office of Management and Budget, Office of the Governor.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^FY2011 Budget Overview & Fiscal Summary                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:05:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman reminded  that  the revenue  prediction  by                                                                   
Commissioner Galvin warranted additional committee time.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
KAREN  REHFELD, DIRECTOR,  OFFICE OF  MANAGEMENT AND  BUDGET,                                                                   
OFFICE OF  THE GOVERNOR, introduced  Steve Hildebrand  as the                                                                   
new Chief  budget analyst  for the  Office of Management  and                                                                   
Budget (OMB). She stated that  OMB is willing to work through                                                                   
the   budget   process   with    the   legislature.   Today's                                                                   
presentation  includes a  high  level view  minus the  agency                                                                   
details   via   PowerPoint   presentation,   "FY2011   Budget                                                                   
Overview" (Copy on File).                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:09:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld discussed Slide 2: "Budget Guidance"                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
   · The FY2011 budget supports Governor Parnell's number                                                                       
     one mission: "Position Alaska's economy for growth and                                                                     
     Alaska's families for opportunity."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld continued with Slide 3: "Budget Guidelines"                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
   · Focus on the priorities mandated by Alaska's                                                                               
     constitution-Education, Public Safety, and Resource                                                                        
     Development.                                                                                                               
   · Maintain budget discipline by limiting agency growth                                                                       
   · Focus on results for Alaskans                                                                                              
   · Take a long-term view                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:10:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld discussed  Slide 4: "FY2011 Budget  Summary." She                                                                   
highlighted  the savings  components.  Currently "all  funds"                                                                   
equal   $10.7   billion   including    the   permanent   fund                                                                   
expenditures  and savings  components  of  the spending  plan                                                                   
before the committee.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  requested   further  discussion  regarding                                                                   
restricted  and  unrestricted  general  funds. He  asked  for                                                                   
further  clarification  about   restating  the  general  fund                                                                   
figures.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:11:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld  communicated  that  the  column  identified  as                                                                   
"recast  general   funds"  includes  both   the  unrestricted                                                                   
general  fund  and  funding  identified  through  the  recast                                                                   
project.  She  mentioned  that  Mr.  Teal  will  address  the                                                                   
subject in greater detail for the public tomorrow.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman  added   that   the  Legislative   Finance                                                                   
Department  will revisit  the historic  numbers for the  $700                                                                   
million  necessitating  restate.  The process  clarifies  the                                                                   
general fund. He explained that  the process requires a great                                                                   
amount of time.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:14:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld pointed  out the  key components  of the  budget                                                                   
development  that must be  refreshed with  the new  fund code                                                                   
assignment including  the performance framework  and the long                                                                   
range fiscal plan,  which were built on the  current model as                                                                   
opposed to the recast.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld returned  to the  Slide 4  and the  expenditures                                                                   
broken down by agency operations  including formula programs,                                                                   
statewide pieces,  capital budget  and transfers  in savings.                                                                   
She  noted   that  the   formula  programs  are   statutorily                                                                   
designated including increases in the budget.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:16:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld  continued  with the  pie chart  on Slide 5.  She                                                                   
explained that  education is a  significant component  of the                                                                   
budget  at  $1.1  billion  serving  approximately  53  school                                                                   
districts  with 130  thousand students.  The budget  proposal                                                                   
fully  funds  the  K-12  formula   including  a  $56  million                                                                   
increase from the prior year.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld  informed that the  Medicaid component  equals 14                                                                   
percent of  the budget. She  explained that the  state served                                                                   
over 120 thousand Alaskans with Medicaid in FY09.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman commented that  the largest component of the                                                                   
increase for  education is  due to the  increase in  the Base                                                                   
Student  Allocation (BSA)  by $100. Ms.  Rehfeld agreed  that                                                                   
the intensive needs  portion extends from 11 to  13 times the                                                                   
BSA.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld addressed the capital  budget at fourteen percent                                                                   
of the total budget. She mentioned  that resource development                                                                   
remains  a high  priority for  the  governor, including  $150                                                                   
million  for   the  Alaska  Gasline  Inducement   Act  (AGEA)                                                                   
reimbursement.  The proposed  spending  for  the instate  gas                                                                   
project is outlined  in the operating budget.  She noted that                                                                   
the   governor   highlighted   $100  million   for   deferred                                                                   
maintenance.  The  governor requested  that  the  legislature                                                                   
consider moving  the $100 million  to an immediate  effective                                                                   
date as seen in the supplemental budget due out next week.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld  noted  the  deferred  maintenance  obligations,                                                                   
which  allow   medium  and  small  contractors   to  continue                                                                   
working. Examples of these maintenance  obligations include a                                                                   
request for  the $75 million crime  lab and $109  million for                                                                   
the University of Alaska life sciences building.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:20:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld  continued that the  capital budget  includes the                                                                   
general  fund necessary  to capture the  federal highway  and                                                                   
aviation  programs  and  continue   to  maintain  the  Dalton                                                                   
Highway,  which is  important  to the  efforts  on the  North                                                                   
Slope. The governor  requested funding to open  access to the                                                                   
Umiat area for resource development.  Included is $25 million                                                                   
for the renewable energy fund.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman requested further  information regarding the                                                                   
$8 million  for Umiat.  He wondered  about phase funding  and                                                                   
timelines. Ms. Rehfeld responded  that the $8 million is half                                                                   
of the  funds required  for the  road's environmental  impact                                                                   
study. She acknowledged that the  funding is phased. Co-Chair                                                                   
Hoffman  asked  if the  funding  is  to  gain access  to  the                                                                   
National  Petroleum   Reserve-Alaska  (NPR-A).   Ms.  Rehfeld                                                                   
understood that the desired access was the Gubik oil field.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Huggins asked  Ms. Rehfeld  to  clarify the  federal                                                                   
match.  Ms. Rehfeld answered  that the  federal general  fund                                                                   
match in  the budget is $50  million allowing the  capture of                                                                   
$700 million in  federal highway and aviation  program funds.                                                                   
She noted the  general fund match for the village  safe water                                                                   
program of $23 million.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:22:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman discussed the  acceleration in time required                                                                   
to move  the $100  million of  deferred maintenance  into the                                                                   
FY10 supplemental.  He asked  if the  funds will be  deducted                                                                   
from  the  2011  capital  budget  presentation.  Ms.  Rehfeld                                                                   
responded that  the governor's  interest is to  jumpstart the                                                                   
first installment of the $100  million proposed for FY11. She                                                                   
noted the  due date of February  2 for the  supplemental bill                                                                   
along with another of February 17 for budget amendments.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman requested  revisiting Slide  3. He  pointed                                                                   
out the quote  "focus on the priorities mandated  by Alaska's                                                                   
constitution-education,    public   safety,    and   resource                                                                   
development."  He  expressed   concern  about  the  operating                                                                   
budget consuming the entire budget,  leaving little money for                                                                   
water, sewer,  roads and bridges.  He asked for  a definition                                                                   
of the  quoted clause from  the administration.  He expressed                                                                   
concern about  the impact  that the  operating budget  has in                                                                   
slowing down economic development in the future.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:25:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld  responded that  the  constitutional  discussion                                                                   
about the  amount allocated for  the capital budget  has been                                                                   
reviewed  for several  years. She  mentioned formula  program                                                                   
increases,  debt service components,  and unfunded  liability                                                                   
as  significant  areas of  discussion.  She noted  that  debt                                                                   
service for  capital projects  is an  ongoing portion  of the                                                                   
operating budget.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  asked  Ms. Rehfeld  to  address  the  revenue                                                                   
sharing  aspect.  Ms.  Rehfeld  responded  that  the  revenue                                                                   
sharing remains  in the budget  at $60 million. The  ten year                                                                   
planning model  includes $60 million  for revenue  sharing as                                                                   
well.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:27:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  recalled the governor's State  of the State                                                                   
address and the emphasis on new  school construction in rural                                                                   
Alaska. He  expressed particular  interest in the  resolution                                                                   
of the Kassayulie  case. He requested feedback  regarding the                                                                   
governor's comments  in his speech. Ms. Rehfeld  replied that                                                                   
the governor  is interested in  working with the  legislature                                                                   
on school construction using the potential FY10 surplus.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman stressed that  rural Alaskans are interested                                                                   
in the  resolution of the Kassayulie  case. The case  is long                                                                   
standing   with  political  implications.   He  opined   that                                                                   
ignorance of  the case is  a mistake.  He sought a  long term                                                                   
solution for  new school construction.  He stressed  that all                                                                   
children in Alaska  deserve adequate schools.  He opined that                                                                   
this was a good year to address the problem.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:30:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld agreed  that  the governor  was  sincere in  his                                                                   
desire to resolve the Kassayulie  case. She revisited the pie                                                                   
chart on Slide 5.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas  requested an  explanation about  certificates                                                                   
of participation  in  other types of  bonding. He  understood                                                                   
that some  provisions in the  recovery act allow  other types                                                                   
of bonds  that may prove  useful for  the crime lab  and life                                                                   
sciences  building.   He  encouraged  familiarity   with  all                                                                   
available  options. Co-Chair  Stedman  agreed that  different                                                                   
methods   of  financing   are  available.   He  requested   a                                                                   
presentation  addressing bonding  indebtedness of the  state,                                                                   
different  mechanisms  for financing,  and  a  review of  the                                                                   
state's bond status.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:32:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld agreed  that Devin  Mitchell  would welcome  the                                                                   
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld  continued with Slide  5. She explained  that the                                                                   
permanent fund  is a  key component of  the spending  plan at                                                                   
$1.5 billion  or 14  percent of  the budget.  The 14  percent                                                                   
includes  the  amount  necessary   for  both  Permanent  Fund                                                                   
Dividend (PFD)  and inflation  proofing based on  projections                                                                   
from the Permanent  Fund Corporation. Co-Chair  Stedman asked                                                                   
if OMB used zero for inflation.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  BOUCHER, SENIOR  ECONOMIST,  OFFICE  OF MANAGEMENT  AND                                                                   
BUDGET,  OFFICE  OF  THE  GOVERNOR,   stated  that  the  FY11                                                                   
projections have inflation proofing,  but the projections for                                                                   
FY10 do not.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman commented  that Mr.  Boucher resembled  his                                                                   
father. Mr.  Boucher stated  that today  would have  been his                                                                   
89th birthday.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:35:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld stated  that the  governor's  proposal for  $400                                                                   
million  is intended for  increasing academic  rigor  in high                                                                   
schools and improving graduation  rates. The goal is improved                                                                   
success for Alaskan children.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld discussed  Agency  Nonformula at  36 percent  or                                                                   
$3.8 billion. The governor did  limit growth in the operating                                                                   
budget.  The  individual  agency  budgets  show  very  little                                                                   
increases. Fixed  costs will be absorbed. She  explained that                                                                   
Power  Cost Equalization,  heating  assistance programs,  and                                                                   
public  safety  including domestic  violence  prevention  are                                                                   
included in the operating budget.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:38:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld  discussed the  statewide appropriations  and the                                                                   
$881.5 million or  8 percent of the budget.  Co-Chair Stedman                                                                   
asked  about  the  rates  of   the  bonded  indebtedness.  He                                                                   
addressed   Page  5,   Line  22   of   the  document   titled                                                                   
"Legislative  Fiscal  Analyst's  Overview of  the  Governor's                                                                   
FY2011 Request" (Copy  on file). The total tax  credits equal                                                                   
over $500 million.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman asked  how much of the $276  million in debt                                                                   
service is allocated  toward school debt service  in the 2011                                                                   
budget.  Ms.  Rehfeld  replied  that she  would  provide  the                                                                   
committee with the debt schedule,  which is also published on                                                                   
OMB's web site.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  stated that  the figures would  exceed $100                                                                   
million.  Mr.   Boucher  clarified  $106   million.  Co-Chair                                                                   
Stedman asked about the cost of  the prison debt. Ms. Rehfeld                                                                   
answered  that  the  debt  service  amount  for  Goose  Creek                                                                   
Correctional  Center   is  also  broken  down   on  the  debt                                                                   
schedule.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:41:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld  continued with Slide  6 and the  FY10 prediction                                                                   
versus FY2011.  She expected  even greater surplus  available                                                                   
at the  end of  FY10. One  important part  of the long  range                                                                   
plan is  to use  savings accounts  to provide core  services.                                                                   
She highlighted the forecast provided yesterday.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman asked  about the proposal  to forward  fund                                                                   
education with  the appropriation of $1.15 billion.  He asked                                                                   
if  the  funds  were  classified   as  savings.  Ms.  Rehfeld                                                                   
answered that the amount is classified as savings.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:43:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld  described  the   pie  chart  on  Slide  7.  She                                                                   
discussed  the surplus  and the construction.  She noted  the                                                                   
savings plan  and the  surplus were  combined in the  savings                                                                   
account.  The  governor is  interested  in working  with  the                                                                   
legislature on  the surplus,  with rural school  construction                                                                   
in the forefront.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman remembered  that  the  legislature did  not                                                                   
forward fund education.  An opportunity to allow  one year of                                                                   
K-12 funding for the future exists now.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Rehfeld  described  Slide   8,  "Utilizing  the  State's                                                                   
Performance Framework to Measure Results for Alaskans."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
   · Agency Missions                                                                                                            
     -Consistent with statutory authority.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
   · Core Services                                                                                                              
     -Activities to accomplish the mission                                                                                      
     -End Results-planned goals and achievements                                                                                
     -Strategies and Targets-planned actions and targets to                                                                     
      measure success                                                                                                           
     -Status and Analysis of Results-How are we doing and                                                                       
      what does the data show?                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
   · System Changes                                                                                                             
     -Align agency and state priorities                                                                                         
     -Identify department priority programs and key                                                                             
      performance indicators                                                                                                    
     -Distribution of current budget capacity (FY10)                                                                            
     -Key performance indicators to reflect progress toward                                                                     
      desired results                                                                                                           
     -Link proposed budget changes with desired results                                                                         
      System Changes                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
   · Legislative Review                                                                                                         
     -Part of the annual review and approval of the budget                                                                      
     -Process outlined in AS 37.07.014                                                                                          
     -Promote results-based government  and method to measure                                                                   
      results for each agency                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:46:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  remembered   a  comment  by  the  governor                                                                   
referencing  a  request from  the  agency  for a  10  percent                                                                   
growth factor  during a year without inflation.  He explained                                                                   
the  challenge   for  the  legislature  of   maintaining  the                                                                   
operating  budget with  revenue to  prevent future  draconian                                                                   
cuts.  Ms.  Rehfeld  agreed  that   some  challenges  include                                                                   
methods  of service  delivery.  Agencies  must  modify to  an                                                                   
acceptable level of funding for a greater period of time.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Chair Hoffman pointed out that  Commissioner Galvin discussed                                                                   
the  growth of  the Constitutional  Budget  Reserve (CBR)  to                                                                   
approximately  $20  billion.  He  referenced  the  governor's                                                                   
comment  in the  State  of the  State  address that  Alaska's                                                                   
savings account would last more  than ten years. He requested                                                                   
realism in  the assumptions,  enabling truthful  projections.                                                                   
He opined that the public portrayal was misleading.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:50:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld  agreed that 10  year predictions  are difficult.                                                                   
She believed that  the assumption spoken by  the Commissioner                                                                   
was in  the event  of a three  percent growth. She  described                                                                   
the  baseline   scenarios,   initiative  scenarios,   gasline                                                                   
scenarios, etc.   The various discussions  include investment                                                                   
timelines  for infrastructure.  She agreed  that the  changes                                                                   
along the way would not lead to  a flat three percent growth.                                                                   
The ten  year plan does provide  the opportunity to  view the                                                                   
pressure points over a long term  horizon. The impacts on the                                                                   
savings accounts are viewed using the varying scenarios.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Huggins   addressed  Slide   3  and  the   focus  of                                                                   
priorities mandated  by the constitution. He  addressed Slide                                                                   
8, and  the priority  of instate  gas. He  was interested  in                                                                   
alignment of the issues. He requested accountability.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld explained  that the instate gasline  project does                                                                   
align with  the resource  development  priority at the  state                                                                   
level. The effort will continue  with the new instate gasline                                                                   
coordinator at  approximately $6.5 million. Extension  of the                                                                   
appropriation made  last year which expires  in February will                                                                   
be requested in the supplemental  bill due next week. Senator                                                                   
Huggins opined that agency alignment was a key component.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:53:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld continued with Slide 9 "Long-Range Fiscal Plan"                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
   · Guiding Principles                                                                                                         
     -Responsibly develop Alaska's natural resources-oil,                                                                       
      gas and other natural resources.                                                                                          
     -Restrain spending-focus  on essential services, results                                                                   
      for Alaskans, promote economic growth and fiscal                                                                          
      stability                                                                                                                 
     -Save for the future-build reserves, forward fund when                                                                     
      appropriate, preserve and grow the permanent fund                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
   · Assumptions                                                                                                                
     -3% annual growth rate in beginning in FY12                                                                                
     -Inflation at 2.75%                                                                                                        
     -Population growth at 1% annually                                                                                          
     -Requires state service delivery to become more                                                                            
      efficient over the 10 year period                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
   · Major Challenges                                                                                                           
     -Formula program increases-Education and Medicaid                                                                          
     -Infrastructure development                                                                                                
     -Unfunded Liability of Retirement Systems                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
   · Planning Tool                                                                                                              
     -The long-range fiscal plan is a tool for policy and                                                                       
      budget development                                                                                                        
     -Does not represent a funding commitment by the                                                                            
      Administration or the Legislature in the future.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  referred to the ten year  plan as addressed                                                                   
five years ago.  He recalled presentations years  ago showing                                                                   
zero  growth.  He  asked  to   review  the  trend  lines  for                                                                   
comparison  of  different  risk  levels.   He  requested  the                                                                   
banded range rather than a linear extrapolation.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:57:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Boucher  announced the important  assumption is  that the                                                                   
fall 2009 forecast  is currently utilized. He  indicated that                                                                   
different revenue  scenarios exist, which are  more important                                                                   
when viewing the ten year plan.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman pointed  out that he  and Co-Chair  Hoffman                                                                   
meet regularly  and alter  the revenue  oil price looking  at                                                                   
the targeted  price volume and  dollar outcome  from revenue.                                                                   
He shared  that they use a  banded range when working  on the                                                                   
budget. He remarked that the co-chairs  of the Senate Finance                                                                   
Committee  generate   the  data  themselves.   He  encouraged                                                                   
presenters  to stray  from the  linear  projection and  begin                                                                   
providing bands prior to the policy discussions.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman commented about  Alaska's natural resources.                                                                   
He noted the  constitutional mandate to manage  fisheries for                                                                   
the maximum  sustainable  yield. He informed  that the  South                                                                   
Central region  of Alaska  and the  Yukon Province  in Canada                                                                   
both  struggle with  problems  accessing  fish. He  furthered                                                                   
that  the  state  must assess  the  management  of  fisheries                                                                   
resources   in   the   state   to   determine   whether   the                                                                   
constitutional  obligation is fulfilled.  He assumed  that if                                                                   
the obligations  were fulfilled,  then the problems  in South                                                                   
Central would  not occur. He  requested funding to  "turn the                                                                   
tide" and reflect Alaskan's desires.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:02:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld detailed the specific  items proposed in the FY11                                                                   
budget  related to  the Yukon  River fishery:  a sonar  pilot                                                                   
station  and salmon  management  enhancement activities.  She                                                                   
was  certain  that  the department  would  be  interested  in                                                                   
discussing the subject.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman clarified  that the  efforts are with  good                                                                   
intention,  but  they  will only  identify  the  problem.  He                                                                   
stressed  that  his  interest  is in  replenishing  the  fish                                                                   
stocks. He explained  that funding for sonar  would prove the                                                                   
fact that  the runs are low,  which a good step  in verifying                                                                   
the problem. He  encouraged the legislature to  be proactive.                                                                   
Senator Huggins echoed Co-Chair  Hoffman's remarks. He agreed                                                                   
that  the funding  provides verification  of  the trend  line                                                                   
without substantial action.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:05:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman elaborated that  the committee is discussing                                                                   
a $70  million operating  budget for  the Department  of Fish                                                                   
and Game.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson agreed  with the  evaluation  provided by  Co-                                                                   
Chair Hoffman and  Senator Huggins. He noted  the surplus and                                                                   
the commercial fishery devastation.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:08:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld discussed Slide 10, "FY2011 Fund Code Project"                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
   · Three Key Changes to Budget Process                                                                                        
     -Reappropriations and Carry Forward                                                                                        
     -Fund Transfers                                                                                                            
     -General Fund and Designated General Funds                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   · FY2011 Revenues and Expenditures                                                                                           
     -Aligned with Legislative Finance on the numbers                                                                           
     -Minor differences in fund transfers                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
   · Implementation Timelines                                                                                                   
     -Updated to OMB's budget system ongoing                                                                                    
     -Enacted budget is the target                                                                                              
     -Sooner if possible                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman spoke  of prior  discussions  with the  OMB                                                                   
office, Ms. Rehfeld and he commended  Legislative Finance for                                                                   
their good work.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Rehfeld  concluded with Slide  11: "For More  Information                                                                   
on the Budget."  She provided the link to more  details about                                                                   
the Governor's FY2011 budget, http://www.omb.alaska.gov.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  asked  to  address  important  alternative                                                                   
energy issues.  The legislature decided to spend  $50 million                                                                   
a  year on  the alternative  energy  program.  Last year  the                                                                   
governor  proposed a  reduction  in the  program  due to  low                                                                   
revenue projections. He believed  that the legislature should                                                                   
spend $50  million a  year now that  the revenue  picture has                                                                   
improved.  Alaskans are  interested  in  addressing the  high                                                                   
cost of  energy. He opined  that the overview  should address                                                                   
this important issue.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:13:42 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Huggins noted  the budget guidance and  the desire to                                                                   
position  Alaska for  growth and  opportunity.  He noted  the                                                                   
economic  challenges around  the  world.  He expressed  alarm                                                                   
about  ignorance of  the  symptoms. He  desired  partnerships                                                                   
with agencies  in the  state because Alaska  does not  need a                                                                   
declining  economic   performance.  He  preferred   that  the                                                                   
committee  be proactive.  He received  calls of concern  from                                                                   
constituents regarding  unemployment and other  indicators of                                                                   
a poor economy.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  thanked Ms. Rehfeld  and her staff  for the                                                                   
presentation. Co-Chair  Hoffman commended the  administration                                                                   
and  looked forward  to working  with them  on the  operating                                                                   
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:16:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Stedman   echoed   Co-Chair   Hoffman's   comments                                                                   
regarding the capital budget.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:17 AM.                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SFC Budget Overview 01.27.2010.pdf SFIN 1/27/2010 9:00:00 AM
FY11 OMB Overview
Teal Fiscal Summary2011.pdf SFIN 1/26/2010 9:00:00 AM
SFIN 1/27/2010 9:00:00 AM
FY11 OMB Overview
FY11- OMB Ovierview
Gov responses to hearing.pdf SFIN 1/27/2010 9:00:00 AM